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But Instead, the Death of the Republicans
Published on October 9, 2005 By dabe In Politics
This newspaper article pretty much sums up why I hate this administration. It's not that the dubya dummies created all these messes, but rather that they refuse to address the issues. They refuse to acknowledge that there are issues. They just parrot these lame and lazy reasonings as to why the US is such a grand nation, the best on the planet, then do what they can to pilfer the hell out of the economy, lie like rugs over a failed war effort, rape the environment so corporate moguls can get richer, etc. I really hate this administration. They have failed this country miserably, and for anyone to think that they are really doing a great job is tantamount to treason.

Yes, I said treason. This administration has undertaken treasonous acts, and supporters of them apparently support those treasonous acts. The worst, of course, is lying this country into a fiasco of a war. The polls, as much as you deny their merits, point to the fact that 2/3's of Americans think that invading Iraq was a mistake. I go a bit further. It was not a mistake, but rather a calculated effort to establish a US presence in the MidEast, and secure the Iraqi's treasured oil fields, which of course, they have also failed at.

I think it's treasonous to deny education to our citizens. It's treasonous to allow corporations to establish laws that result in their huge profits, at the expense of the environments. It's treasonous to make it illegal for government to negotiate lower drug prices so pharmaceutical companies are insured record profits. The list goes on, and may they all rot in hell. I am so sure that you all will be quite sorry as historians record this administration as being the most corrupt, least effectual, and truly the worst that this country has ever seen.

I do not agree with the title of this article. This is not the death of America. But, it is going through some major crises right now, many of which are directly resulting from the foibles and follies of this dubya administration. And, I am not ashamed to be an American. But, I am ashamed that so many Americans actually voted for these crooks.

Following are a few exerpts from the article:

IS THIS THE DEATH OF AMERICA?
America's sense of itself - its pride in its power - has been profoundly damaged.

They [Americans] have watched with growing disbelief and horror as a convergence of events - dominated by the unending war in Iraq and two hurricanes - have exposed ugly and disturbing things in the undergrowth that shame and embarrass Americans and undermine their belief in the nation and its values.

and

AMERICA, which has the world's costliest health care, had, it turned out, higher infant mortality rates than the broke and despised Cuba.

Tom De Lay, Republican enforcer in the House of Representatives, was indicted for conspiracy and money laundering. The leader of the Republicans in the Senate was under investigation for his stock dealings. And Osama bin Laden was still on the loose.


and

The catalogue of afflictions is long and grisly. Hurricane Katrina revealed confusion and incompetence throughout government, from town hall to White House.

President Bush, accused of an alarming failure of leadership over the disaster, has now been to the Gulf coast seven times for carefully orchestrated photo opps.

But his approval has dropped below 40 per cent. Public doubt about his capacity to deal with pressing problems is growing.

Americans feel ashamed by the violent, predatory behaviour Katrina triggered - nothing similar happened in the tsunami-hit Third World countries - and by the deep racial and class divisions it revealed.

The press has since been giving the country a crash course on poverty and race, informing the flag wavers that an uncaring America may be No.1 on the world inequities index.

IT has 37 million living under the poverty line, largely unnoticed by the richest in a country with more than three million millionaires.

The typical white family has $80,000 in assets; the average black family about $6,000. It's a wealth gap out of the Middle Ages. Some 46 million can't afford health insurance, 18,000 of whom will die early because of it.

The US, we learn, is 43rd in the world infant mortality rankings. A baby born in Beijing has nearly three times the chance of reaching its first birthday than a baby born in Washington. Those who survive face rotten schools. On reading and maths tests for 15-year-olds, America is 24th out of 29 nations.

On the other side of the tracks, 18 corporate executives have so far been jailed for cooking the books and looting billions. The prosecution of Mr Bush's pals at Enron - the showcase trial of the greed-is-good culture - will be soon.

But the backroom deal lives on and, in an orgy of cronyism, billions of dollars are being carved up in no-bid contracts awarded to politically-connected firms for work in the hurricane-hit states and in Iraq.

The war, seen as unwinnable, is becoming a bleak burden, with nearly 2,000 American dead. Two-thirds think the invasion was a mistake.

The war costs $6billion a month, driving up a nose-bleed high $331billion budget deficit. In five years the conflict will have cost each American family $11,300, it is said.


And, last is this paragraph, which I do hope, like hope itself, is true:


America's sense of itself - its pride in its power and authority, its faith in its institutions and its belief in its leaders - has been profoundly damaged. And now the talking heads in Washington predict dramatic political change and the death of the Republicans' hope of becoming the permanent government.

Yes, boys and girls, I anticipate that this dumbass administration will be the death of the Republicans' stranglehold on American politics and discourse. May they rot in hell for what they have done to us all.

Comments (Page 2)
on Oct 09, 2005
I did like the last paragraph.... but the left needs more than hope for a change, it has to show the people, through actions, that it has something better to offer them.


LOL.....

The only actions I have seen from the Democrats is tearing thing down. They need something, because even with the problems Bush and Co. is going through right now, the Democrats still looks like a worse option.

Something like the contract with America. But a contract written from the likes of Howard Dean will just scare more people away from the Democrat party.
on Oct 09, 2005
Take heart Dabe. People forget about the human rights charges levelled at George and Dick. They will have alot of trouble travelling once they leave office.

It would set a wonderful precedent to see a former president and put in someone else's court and stuck in chains.


Not going to happen. People were talking the same thing about Clinton.
on Oct 10, 2005
Not going to happen. People were talking the same thing about Clinton.


Nobody was saying that about Clinton. They tried to convict him for lying to Congress about a blow job. Not exactly worthy of high crimes and misdemeanors. As for the war effort in Bosnia, and in Somalia, it's nothing that other presidents had not undertaken. Some efforts were successful. Some not. But, in both cases, Clinton went about it all legally, without finagling behind Congress' backs, had international coalitions, and undertook the efforts for strictly humanitarian reasons. Sure they were, messes. War is messy. Dubya, on the other hand, well............................ may he go down in history as the bumbling crook and liar that he is, and end up answering to an international court for war crimes. That is my wish. And, I'm sure it's not too far fetched to believe it will happen. But, ya'll still have your heads up your asses, and your views of the world are really quite limited. Get an education, for cryin' out loud. Do some fucking homework.
on Oct 10, 2005

They tried to convict him for lying to Congress about a blow job.

No, they were trying to convict him for lying under oath to a judge.  Remember Martha Stewart?  Remember what she was convicted of?

on Oct 10, 2005
Get an education, for cryin' out loud. Do some fucking homework.


If you don't like my opinion, to bad. I was alive and listening to the news during the time period. It is obvious that you were not.

There was calls for prison time from the Right-wingers the day after he was not through out of office by the Senate. What world where you living on? The news media was talking about that for nearly two weeks, around the clock. That was about the time FOX news and MSNBC news was just hitting the air and was fighting for ratings.

The only thing Clinton got hit for after he got out of office, was being thrown out of the Arkansas Bar Association. Not like he was going to practice law there again anyway.

This is not a slam on Clinton, this is a fact that Presidents forgive and don't talk out against those before them or after. It is a tradition, that Jimmy Carter sometimes forgets, because he had been treated so poorly by the DC establishment.

Dubya, on the other hand, well............................ may he go down in history as the bumbling crook and liar that he is, and end up answering to an international court for war crimes.


Please list the Crimes. Because right now I know your opinion, but that does not make a crime. George is the one supporting UN resolutions and enforcing treaties that had been violated. Name a UN resolution dealing with Iraq that he has broken. Name a Geneva Convention that he has broken (please base this off of Historical precedence and not your opinion).
on Oct 10, 2005
You've gone so far over the edge, along with all the far left, that nothing any of you say can be taken seriously. You do your arguments no favor by being outlandish and using words the definition of which you either care not to know or choose to misrepresent.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Oct 11, 2005
Please list the Crimes.


Indictments

Wars of Aggression

The Commission will inquire into the following charges:

Count 1: The Iraq war was a crime of aggression.

Count 2: The conduct of the war involved the commission of "war crimes."

Count 3: The occupation of Iraq involved, and continues to involve, the commission of "war crimes", "crimes against humanity" and other illegal acts.



Torture and Indefinite Detention

The Commission will inquire into the following charges:

Count 1: The Bush administration authorized the use of torture and abuse in violation of international humanitarian and human rights law and domestic constitutional and statutory law.

Count 2: The Bush administration authorized the transfer (“rendition”) of persons held in U.S. custody to foreign countries where torture is known to be practiced.

Count 3: The Bush administration authorized the indefinite detention of persons seized in foreign combat zones and in other countries far from any combat zone and denied them the protections of the Geneva Conventions on the treatment of prisoners of war and the protections of the U.S. Constitution.

Count 4: The Bush administration authorized the round-up and detention in the United States of tens of thousands of immigrants on pretextual grounds and held them without charge or trial in violation of international human rights law and domestic constitutional and civil rights law.

Count 5: The Bush administration used military forces to seize and detain indefinitely without charges U.S. citizens, denying them the right to challenge their detention in U.S. courts.

Count 6: The Bush administration committed murder by authorizing the CIA to kill those that the president designates, either US citizens or non-citizens, anywhere in the world.



Destruction of the Global Environment

The Commission will inquire into the following charges:

Count 1: The Bush administration has consistently denied the scientific consensus around global warming and its causes. Administration officials have misrepresented, distorted, and suppressed scientific information on the subject, especially as it would impact public opinion.

Count 2: The Bush administration has refused to take any measures to curb the emissions of greenhouse gases, guided by narrow corporate interests. It has withdrawn from any international efforts that would impose binding restrictions, however minimal. It has done this with full knowledge of the catastrophic effects of global warming and the disproportionate U.S. share of world greenhouse gas emissions.

Attacks on Global Public Health

[indictment not finished]

Bush Crimes Commission Link

on Oct 11, 2005

Reply By: dabePosted: Tuesday, October 11, 2005
Please list the Crimes.

The crimes!  NOt the propaganda!  Please.  You know the difference.

on Oct 11, 2005
Well, since we had a ceasefire agreement with Iraq, returning to hostilities is not a "war crime", it is simply returning to hostilities. The Gulf War of 1991 didn't end, the two sides just agreed to quit shooting... no matter which side decides to end the agreement, ending the ceasefire is not a war crime, it is simply breaking the terms thereof.

Now I return you to your cheering on the bacteria, already in progress.
on Oct 12, 2005
Count 1: The Iraq war was a crime of aggression.


It is only a war of aggression if the UN does not approve it. The UN approved this war twice.

Once with the authorization of Resumption of Hostilities if Saddam does not abide by the Armistice signed at the end of the First Gulf war. Note I said Armistice, not treaty. The treaty would have been signed if Saddam had complied with the resolutions. Each time Saddam willingly fired on any coalition aircraft, that was a violation, let alone all the other violations he committed by ignoring all seventeen resolutions that followed. UN Resolution: 686 Para: 3(a) "Cease hostile or provocative actions by its forces against all Member States including missile attacks and flights of combat aircraft."

Second UN resolution 1441 gives a list all the volitions of 686 and 687, and warns Saddam again about firing on Member State aircraft supporting the UN resolution 686 and 687. Which he ignore and fired upon British aircraft the next day. Also This is the Resolution that also authorizes serious consequences if he does not follow this warning and all seventeen resolutions that he had ignored.

Count 2: The conduct of the war involved the commission of "war crimes."


The UN Nuremberg Charter goes into detail what is "War Crimes", none of which has been Violated. So please if you want to make this statement detail out your charges as per which Crime was committed. As for using count number one as the charge, I have already taken that one off the table.

Count 3: The occupation of Iraq involved, and continues to involve, the commission of "war crimes", "crimes against humanity" and other illegal acts.


Please, detail out what crimes against humanity you are talking about and illegal act. Right now your saying "things", please tell me what the "things" are. I am not a mind reader.

Count 1: The Bush administration authorized the use of torture and abuse in violation of international humanitarian and human rights law and domestic constitutional and statutory law.


Again please detail on what violates the "international humanitarian and human rights laws ect..." and provide the memo/Field manual/Regulation authorizing the torture from the administration. I can provide the Army Field Manual dealing with the Geneva Convention and detailing how the US Army is regulated to protect human rights. Every member of the US Army goes through a briefing at least once a year and it is a required Common Task to be tested on yearly. I must have missed the memo authorizing me to torture people.

Count 2: The Bush administration authorized the transfer (“rendition”) of persons held in U.S. custody to foreign countries where torture is known to be practiced.


You mean we are not authorized to return the persons to there own countries? What your asking us to not return persons to their own country to face charges and justice, because that country will enact their laws that don't follow ours.

Count 3: The Bush administration authorized the indefinite detention of persons seized in foreign combat zones and in other countries far from any combat zone and denied them the protections of the Geneva Conventions on the treatment of prisoners of war and the protections of the U.S. Constitution.


One: Those captured in foreign combat zones do not meet the criteria of "prisoners of war", by the Geneva Convention (again I am brief on and tested on the Geneva Convention once a year, how about you?).

Two: Please point out in the US Constitution where foreigners outside the United States have the rights of US Citizens? If that is true, we need to start sending our police to every country in the world to enforcement.

Count 4: The Bush administration authorized the round-up and detention in the United States of tens of thousands of immigrants on pretext grounds and held them without charge or trial in violation of international human rights law and domestic constitutional and civil rights law.


Until the US Supreme Court declares the Patriot Act Un-constitutional or says these detentions violate the civil rights amendment, no laws have been broken.

Count 5: The Bush administration used military forces to seize and detain indefinitely without charges U.S. citizens, denying them the right to challenge their detention in U.S. courts.


Please enlighten me on this case. Because all US citizens that I know of detained by US military forces in this war, have been charged and their cases are going through the US Court System.


Count 6: The Bush administration committed murder by authorizing the CIA to kill those that the president designates, either US citizens or non-citizens, anywhere in the world.


Again, please provide the text of this charge. Has this happened yet and can you provide a incident? Just because in you opinion something is murder, does not make it so.

Destruction of the Global Environment


As for these charges, please provide the treaty or laws that the US has signed which have been broken by President Bush.

I can not debate you without knowing what laws was broken and where these laws are coming from. You provide me with general observations that you think breaks some sort of law somewhere, but then don't provide any evidence or even the text of the law.

Please provide more info on these allegations.
on Oct 12, 2005
actually....she is just providing you the propagana garbage from some left-wing wacko site...i have seen that site somewhere before....oh, yeah....it was from my dad....and Kerry's little group sent it to him.

by the way, Lee, you are one of my heroes....lol...good job with that comment....
on Oct 12, 2005
by the way, Lee, you are one of my heroes....lol...good job with that comment....


Thanks for the comment and support, MythicalMino.

I am doing the job that I signed up for, and get tired of people claiming that the military is committing war crimes (ordered to or not, it is against Department of Defence Regs. to commit war crimes). Then those same people making these statements have the audacity to also claim their supporting the troops by doing so.