A beginner's work in progress.......
or get yourself banished to JU isolation
Published on June 25, 2005 By dabe In Blogging
How to insult the JU way
or get yourself banished to JU isolation


I've not posted anything here for some time, since I was banished to my own blog. Why bother? In fact, I get the feeling that I'm supposed to come crawling to the site administrators to beg their forgiveness and please, oh please allow me to enter the forums again. I'm kind of adverse to doing that, and this is why........

I do not feel any modicum of contrition for my behavior. Sure, I took profanity over the top and I resorted to some degree of name-calling. But, I was warned, and I promised to be "good". But, I continued to post my beliefs, much to the apparent dismay of one drmiler, who was hell-bent on getting me banished. In fact, he proclaims to have saved all my posts, from the beginning, to use against me in order to accomplish said banishment. If that's not compulsive, then nothing is. But, I have to ask......... do you, drmiler, save posts of the nasty, abrasive, abusive individuals who happen to fall on the right side of the political aisle? Probably not. Because, in fact, you do not give a damned about swearing or name-calling at all. That's just your tool. In fact, you just hate anything liberal.

Along comes this new poster, posting very liberal stuff, and whom I happen to like alot. Immediately, drmiler is all over him, and guess what? He's now saving that poster's postings to use against him, so that eventually poor zinkadoodle will make a minor slip and drmiler, the self-proclaimed ju hall monitor, will beligerently, like a good rightie soldier, get him also banished. If that's not compulsive, then nothing is.

drmiler's response to Bahu Link
"The news from Iraq is getting *more ignorant" by the day"!! And you're buying into it. What does this say to you about your intelligence level?
To which zinkadoodle replied, on the same link:
"You didn't insult me. You insulted Bahu, calling him "ignorant" for his point of view on the Iraq debaucle. You have yet to make any kind of point regarding his post, other than insulting him and responding to me pointing out your bad habit of insulting people with whom you do not agree." (From what I have seen, zinkadoodle is right on, and this is really indicative of drmiler's pattern of responses. He's just abusive.

Here's another one:
moderateman's reasoning for posting his vitriole Link
"yes, yes and yes, but I posted this in the futile hope of one dimwit comming to their senses and seeing what it is we are fighting for." Errrr. ...which dimwit would that be? Why isn't drmiler there threatening your name-calling practice?

Here's a good example:
Dr.Guy responding to zinkadoodle's post about fascism and bushism Link
"In short, the only ones you impress with your arrogant idiocy is yourself."
To which zinkadoodle replied:
"Obviously, the only arrogance you don't perceive as such is when it's righty based. None of what you said here is even remotely on topic. It's just bashing me. So get the hell real, and practice what you preach."

COLGene takes a lot of shit for his beliefs:
Lucas Bailey asks COL to supply links, and to which drmiler replies Link
"He can't! This is just more leftist do-do." I guess you cannot come right out and say "shit".
Zinkadoodle comes to the Col's defense, and to which drmiler pipes in, rather profanely:
"Hey zinkadoodle....Got any proof of this? If not STFU!"
To which zinkadoodle reponds accordingly:
"OK I'll play your game. Go away and STFU, if you don't have any information to dispute my contentions." I see a pattern here.........

See, what I've learned from all of this is that you have couch your insults in a manner that somehow fits the TOS, even if the insults are the same. For instance, drmiler points out that he "asked" if it's ok to use the term "bs", to which he tells us that it is an approved insult. Same with STFU. However, coming right out and saying "bullshit" or "shut the fuck up" will get you banished. You cannot call someone an arrogant idiot, but you can say their posting is "arrogant idiocy". Hmmmmmmmm.................. a lesson that I, unfortunately, was a little slow to learn. Insults and profanities are OK as long as they are aptly tailored.

Sure, I lashed out at little whip when she posted that "cookie scandal" nonsense. I was new here, and I was stunned by the article. People are dying daily, and she posted about a cookie contestant's moral values. However, I have since apologized, but that fell on deaf ears, or blind eyes, or whatever. It seems that I was banished for some of my earlier posts, wherein drmiler created a case against me, as a pattern of my blogging life. I was guilty. Which therefore, in his rightie world, means guilty forever.

I refuse to express any kind of contrition. I contend that since being warned, I did not do anything that any one else did not do. Abuse abounds bigtime at ju, but apparently it's only tolerated by righties, including the right-leaning moderators who buy into the likes of drmiler's hall-monitoring nonsense. I have been following zinkadoodle's posts. He's been extremely benign in his responses, in that name-calling and profanities are pretty much absent from his posts. But, given enough time, and given enough pushing and abuse by the likes of drmiler or bakerstreet or drguy, he'll likely post something "off color" and drmiler will rise to the occasion, as the good soldier he is (not).

I feel no contrition. I only regret that I screwed up in my early postings. I am angry that ju buys into the discrimination of left leaning posters here. If I am allowed back into the world of ju forums, I'll watch my tongue (fingers). I'll play by the skewed rules that liberals beware. Maybe it will give me the sharp edge that Myrrander and Kingbee have acquired, maybe by posting here. My hat's off to you guys. You've behaved admirably.

So, now that I have learned my lesson, will the ju admins allow me back? I'd sure like to know which specific post put my behavior over the top. No one ever told me.

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on Jun 26, 2005
Well Doc, in my "opinion", if she feels absolutely no contrition then she has not learned her lesson. Liberal or not. I don't think nyone has asked her to come "crawling" to admin for release. But given her general tone, she'll probably end up staying a while longer.


Yea, and part 3 of FOulmouth will be delayed as well! It just will be so dull you know?

(I was going to be the hero in Part 3!)
on Jun 26, 2005
Well Doc, in my "opinion", if she feels absolutely no contrition then she has not learned her lesson. Liberal or not. I don't think nyone has asked her to come "crawling" to admin for release. But given her general tone, she'll probably end up staying a while longer.


Yea, and part 3 of FOulmouth will be delayed as well! It just will be so dull you know?

(I was going to be the hero in Part 3!)


Awwwww dang! NOW you tell me.
on Jun 26, 2005
You guys sure have patronizing down to a science, dontcha?
on Jun 26, 2005

You guys sure have patronizing down to a science, dontcha?


How so?
on Jun 27, 2005
dabe,

I'm speaking as a person who's come to appreciate your viewpoint over time. Frankly, I don't know what the difference is between "STFU" and it's spelled out equivalent, but it does seem to have a different impact.

I don't know the exact criteria for banishment and reinstatement, and I try to steer clear on *that* end of things ( I couldn't change anyone's minds if I wanted to). But I do know that my initial gut reaction to you was due to the strings of profanity, which have no place in intelligent debate. To your credit, however, you seem to have kicked that down a notch or three since I pointed it out. And I'm not online enough to see both sides clearly here.

But I don't think it's about the idea of avoiding debate or heated discussions; we couldn't cover ANY topic if that were the case. It's more about mutual respect in a medium where sarcasm and hyperbole can't be easily expressed as they are in real life with nonverbal and paraverbal cues.

Anyway, all my rambling to say this: stay with it. You are being read. And don't worry about not feeling contrite; you shouldn't have to apologize for being who you are.

Here's to the day you get off your groundation.
on Jul 01, 2005
FREE DABE!!!!!!

We missya kid!
on Jul 01, 2005
Thank you, Gideon and Manopeace.

I see that Myrrander is requesting to be released from isolation, and I of course, support it. Three months for Myrrander is a long time. But, he knows why he was banished. Truly, I don't know what specifically put the ju gods over the edge, so I cannot even apologize for anything specific. And, I cannot apologize for generalities. As Gid pointed out, I am who I am.
on Jul 02, 2005
You SUCK! Oh, wait, I can post. I'm not blacklisted!!! Maybe you DON'T suck...

heeeeey, is this some kind of trick? If not, boy, this IS an effort in diplomacy, huh?
on Aug 03, 2005

 

I am angry that ju buys into the discrimination of left leaning posters here.

It has nothing to do with "left leaning" posters.  It has to do with being nasty. 

Truly, I don't know what specifically put the ju gods over the edge, so I cannot even apologize for anything specific.

You received private emails warning you about what was going to happen and you did nothing to change.  Now you say that you can behave? right.

Thank you, dabe, for your support, and for fighting the good fight

You do realize that posting as two people is not accepted here, right?  You were here when Dan tried the same crap.  Nothing like creating a fake user to back yourself up, huh?  I thought maybe you would have been smart enough to quit it once people started outing you on the forums, but you didn't.  Instead, you are using your other persona *on your own article* to back up what you are saying.

You need serious help, dabe.

on Aug 03, 2005
See ya around Zink! Told ya didn't I?
on Aug 03, 2005

See ya around Zink! Told ya didn't I?

Zink is gone?

on Aug 03, 2005
See ya around Zink! Told ya didn't I?

Zink is gone?


Yep! Exiled for:
1) making a VERY rude and profane comment to bakerstreet.

2) was actually dabe trying to get around her being confined to her own blog. Doing so is against TOS!
on Aug 03, 2005
po lil zink
on Aug 03, 2005

po lil zink


I won't miss her at all! IMHO she got what she deserved!
on Aug 03, 2005
I won't miss her at all! IMHO she got what she deserved!


just teasing...
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