A beginner's work in progress.......
or get yourself banished to JU isolation
Published on June 25, 2005 By dabe In Blogging
How to insult the JU way
or get yourself banished to JU isolation


I've not posted anything here for some time, since I was banished to my own blog. Why bother? In fact, I get the feeling that I'm supposed to come crawling to the site administrators to beg their forgiveness and please, oh please allow me to enter the forums again. I'm kind of adverse to doing that, and this is why........

I do not feel any modicum of contrition for my behavior. Sure, I took profanity over the top and I resorted to some degree of name-calling. But, I was warned, and I promised to be "good". But, I continued to post my beliefs, much to the apparent dismay of one drmiler, who was hell-bent on getting me banished. In fact, he proclaims to have saved all my posts, from the beginning, to use against me in order to accomplish said banishment. If that's not compulsive, then nothing is. But, I have to ask......... do you, drmiler, save posts of the nasty, abrasive, abusive individuals who happen to fall on the right side of the political aisle? Probably not. Because, in fact, you do not give a damned about swearing or name-calling at all. That's just your tool. In fact, you just hate anything liberal.

Along comes this new poster, posting very liberal stuff, and whom I happen to like alot. Immediately, drmiler is all over him, and guess what? He's now saving that poster's postings to use against him, so that eventually poor zinkadoodle will make a minor slip and drmiler, the self-proclaimed ju hall monitor, will beligerently, like a good rightie soldier, get him also banished. If that's not compulsive, then nothing is.

drmiler's response to Bahu Link
"The news from Iraq is getting *more ignorant" by the day"!! And you're buying into it. What does this say to you about your intelligence level?
To which zinkadoodle replied, on the same link:
"You didn't insult me. You insulted Bahu, calling him "ignorant" for his point of view on the Iraq debaucle. You have yet to make any kind of point regarding his post, other than insulting him and responding to me pointing out your bad habit of insulting people with whom you do not agree." (From what I have seen, zinkadoodle is right on, and this is really indicative of drmiler's pattern of responses. He's just abusive.

Here's another one:
moderateman's reasoning for posting his vitriole Link
"yes, yes and yes, but I posted this in the futile hope of one dimwit comming to their senses and seeing what it is we are fighting for." Errrr. ...which dimwit would that be? Why isn't drmiler there threatening your name-calling practice?

Here's a good example:
Dr.Guy responding to zinkadoodle's post about fascism and bushism Link
"In short, the only ones you impress with your arrogant idiocy is yourself."
To which zinkadoodle replied:
"Obviously, the only arrogance you don't perceive as such is when it's righty based. None of what you said here is even remotely on topic. It's just bashing me. So get the hell real, and practice what you preach."

COLGene takes a lot of shit for his beliefs:
Lucas Bailey asks COL to supply links, and to which drmiler replies Link
"He can't! This is just more leftist do-do." I guess you cannot come right out and say "shit".
Zinkadoodle comes to the Col's defense, and to which drmiler pipes in, rather profanely:
"Hey zinkadoodle....Got any proof of this? If not STFU!"
To which zinkadoodle reponds accordingly:
"OK I'll play your game. Go away and STFU, if you don't have any information to dispute my contentions." I see a pattern here.........

See, what I've learned from all of this is that you have couch your insults in a manner that somehow fits the TOS, even if the insults are the same. For instance, drmiler points out that he "asked" if it's ok to use the term "bs", to which he tells us that it is an approved insult. Same with STFU. However, coming right out and saying "bullshit" or "shut the fuck up" will get you banished. You cannot call someone an arrogant idiot, but you can say their posting is "arrogant idiocy". Hmmmmmmmm.................. a lesson that I, unfortunately, was a little slow to learn. Insults and profanities are OK as long as they are aptly tailored.

Sure, I lashed out at little whip when she posted that "cookie scandal" nonsense. I was new here, and I was stunned by the article. People are dying daily, and she posted about a cookie contestant's moral values. However, I have since apologized, but that fell on deaf ears, or blind eyes, or whatever. It seems that I was banished for some of my earlier posts, wherein drmiler created a case against me, as a pattern of my blogging life. I was guilty. Which therefore, in his rightie world, means guilty forever.

I refuse to express any kind of contrition. I contend that since being warned, I did not do anything that any one else did not do. Abuse abounds bigtime at ju, but apparently it's only tolerated by righties, including the right-leaning moderators who buy into the likes of drmiler's hall-monitoring nonsense. I have been following zinkadoodle's posts. He's been extremely benign in his responses, in that name-calling and profanities are pretty much absent from his posts. But, given enough time, and given enough pushing and abuse by the likes of drmiler or bakerstreet or drguy, he'll likely post something "off color" and drmiler will rise to the occasion, as the good soldier he is (not).

I feel no contrition. I only regret that I screwed up in my early postings. I am angry that ju buys into the discrimination of left leaning posters here. If I am allowed back into the world of ju forums, I'll watch my tongue (fingers). I'll play by the skewed rules that liberals beware. Maybe it will give me the sharp edge that Myrrander and Kingbee have acquired, maybe by posting here. My hat's off to you guys. You've behaved admirably.

So, now that I have learned my lesson, will the ju admins allow me back? I'd sure like to know which specific post put my behavior over the top. No one ever told me.

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on Jun 25, 2005
Here's another one:
moderateman's reasoning for posting his vitriole Link
"yes, yes and yes, but I posted this in the futile hope of one dimwit comming to their senses and seeing what it is we are fighting for." Errrr. ...which dimwit would that be? Why isn't drmiler there threatening your name-calling practice?


hi dabe nice to see you back and writing again, the above post of one of my blogs was a poor choice as it could apply to anybody, there is nothing personal about saying what I said.

you attack on a personal level, there is a difference.

blog on kid..

MM
on Jun 25, 2005
I'm Offended, Outraged even!! How did you post an article about insulting Left thinking bloggers and leave quotes by me completely out of it?? You even posted some shots and Colon Gene and managed to leave me out!! I couldn't be more offended if the Traitor Durbin (D, IL) came out and compared Guantanimo Bay to a Gulag, or if Karl Rove accused Democrats of wanting to "feel for the terrorists"!!!! ;~D

As far as your point though Dabe, as frustrating as JU can be, there are many other free blogsites that have a lot more to offer. This isn't a "don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you", I'm just saying that if you don't like it here, there are many other places to blog. I've looked into "jumping" myself.
on Jun 25, 2005

Glad to see you back!  Hoprefully you will be off probation soon.  We miss you!

Thanks for that attribution.  I never saw zinks response.

Things just have not been the same since you were put on restriction!

on Jun 25, 2005
Dabe.. this is a place for you to post whatever you want.. if people dont like it then they shouldnt read.

Just keep posting, there needs to be balance on this site.. and if not.. then there are plenty of other places you can blog. Just make sure it is about you. That is the interesting stuff.

Keep going..

Px
on Jun 26, 2005
To moderateman: Thanks for the kind words. Hell, I never thought I'd be saying that to you, of all people. As I pointed out above, there is this fine line or distinction between outright personal attacks and those couched within what is acceptable personal attacks per the TOS. I was a bit slow to see that difference.

To ParaTed: If I listed every rightie that gets away with insulting lefties, the list would be so long, and frankly, I didn't feel like it. Truly, I never meant to insult you personally. I actually meant to point out the bias and shortcomings and double standards that I have encountered here. Thanks for replying.

Dr. Guy: I'd like to get back to the debates with my newly learned skills. I find the distinctions dubious, at best, but you righties know it, and it has become the law of the land here. Thanks.

Px: Your reply means alot to me. You're one of my favs here.

I still do read here. But in the interim, I have been arming myself with knowledge that will challenge the rightie neocon thinking. As you all know, I despise blind patriotism. In fact, questioning authority is patriotic, in spite of what this dumbo administration would want you to believe. They are lying and you are buying. It's quite sad, really.
on Jun 26, 2005
still do read here. But in the interim, I have been arming myself with knowledge that will challenge the rightie neocon thinking. As you all know, I despise blind patriotism. In fact, questioning authority is patriotic, in spite of what this dumbo administration would want you to believe. They are lying and you are buying. It's quite sad, really.


questioning authority is fine and very american, one of our best liberties, it's the dragging of high office throught the mud, the outright lies, the total disrespect for the Presidentcy {his office} that rankles me.
on Jun 26, 2005
it's the dragging of high office throught the mud, the outright lies, the total disrespect for the Presidentcy {his office} that rankles me.


This is a big difference between how we view our present administration. I have no qualms about dragging the "high office" through the mud, as long as they continue to drag this country down. What you see as outright lies are not, and regardless of how many times liberals cite their sources, you refuse to believe them that this administration is the most lying, obscuring, secretive one we've ever had. As for disrespect, damn straight I disrespect them. They have not earned my respect, nor do they care about it. They just hammer their twisted agenda along, regardless that more and more Americans are begnning to finally see their follies and foibles and outright lies for what they are.

I hate this administration. I cannot understand, moderateman, why you hang so hard to your beliefs that they are doing this country any good. That truly astounds me. That is what I view as blindly patriotic, devoid of real intellectual research into the matters that liberals are fight so hard to expose. I don't mean to disrespect you personally, but I just cannot, for the life of me, understand your dig-your-heels-in stance. Not yours and not any other rightie's here. Or anywhere.

Thank you, dabe, for your support, and for fighting the good fight.
on Jun 26, 2005
#7 by zinkadoodle
Sunday, June 26, 2005


hate this administration. I cannot understand, moderateman, why you hang so hard to your beliefs that they are doing this country any good. That truly astounds me. That is what I view as blindly patriotic, devoid of real intellectual research into the matters that liberals are fight so hard to expose. I don't mean to disrespect you personally, but I just cannot, for the life of me, understand your dig-your-heels-in stance. Not yours and not any other rightie's here. Or anywhere.


and here in lies the problem , your blind hate of all things republican has blinded you to the one truth about all this crap... we are in a war a fight for our very excistence, yet you cannot see this. no one hates war more than I, I have seen war up close and personal and see what it does to the country and the warriors that fight, live, die, broken bodies, broken minds, it stinks. I have predicted a while ago the left is doing exactly what they did in vietnam, and they are, twist, lie, smear the folks that fight for our country, the left complains the people of america are losing faith in this war, but who causes them to lose faith? the very people complaining constantly, fabricating lies, YOU the left... Je accuse.
on Jun 26, 2005
fabricating lies



BULL FREAKIN' SHIT
on Jun 26, 2005
9 by zinkadoodle
Sunday, June 26, 2005


fabricating lies


BULL FREAKIN' SHIT


ah yes the famous democratic reply, no sound arguement just some cuss words, as if that wins the arguement for them.

bump, bump, bump, anotherone bites the dust, and another one, anotherone anotherone bitess the dusttttttt.
on Jun 26, 2005
*Walks over to the coffee pot, winks at dabe, pours herself a cup of coffee, and heads back to the office*
on Jun 26, 2005
Dr. Guy: I'd like to get back to the debates with my newly learned skills. I find the distinctions dubious, at best, but you righties know it, and it has become the law of the land here. Thanks.


You know we did agree once. But I do like disagreeing with you. It is fun! See you soon at a blog near you hopefully!
on Jun 26, 2005
This is why I hope you stay here! Just see original post. Especially the last point of zinkadoodle and myself. I notice you did not post the entire conversation. you conveniently left out out zinkadoodle's response which prompted mine. It was the tone and way that he replied that prompted my response. Much like your responses to me.


COL Gene takes a lot of shit for his beliefs:
Lucas Bailey asks COL to supply links, and to which drmiler replies Link
"He can't! This is just more leftist do-do." I guess you cannot come right out and say "shit".
Missing reply
Zinkadoodle comes to the Col's defense, and to which drmiler pipes in, rather profanely:
"Hey zinkadoodle....Got any proof of this? If not STFU!"
To which zinkadoodle responds accordingly:
"OK I'll play your game. Go away and STFU, if you don't have any information to dispute my contentions." I see a pattern here.........


And here is a "prime" example of why in my opinion you should stay here.


I feel no contrition.


You were put here because of your attitude, your manners and your language. Yet you feel no contrition? Case in point....The COL and I have never agreed on one single thing. We have had at it very seriously on quite a few occasions. But you have yet to hear "either" one of us calling for the others banishment.
on Jun 26, 2005
And here is a "prime" example of why in my opinion you should stay here.


I feel no contrition.


You were put here because of your attitude, your manners and your language. Yet you feel no contrition? Case in point....The COL and I have never agreed on one single thing. We have had at it very seriously on quite a few occasions. But you have yet to hear "either" one of us calling for the others banishment.


Doc, she never will. SHe is a liberal after all. Gods can never be wrong. So they will never have contrition.
on Jun 26, 2005
And here is a "prime" example of why in my opinion you should stay here.


I feel no contrition.


You were put here because of your attitude, your manners and your language. Yet you feel no contrition? Case in point....The COL and I have never agreed on one single thing. We have had at it very seriously on quite a few occasions. But you have yet to hear "either" one of us calling for the others banishment.


Doc, she never will. SHe is a liberal after all. Gods can never be wrong. So they will never have contrition.


Well Doc, in my "opinion", if she feels absolutely no contrition then she has not learned her lesson. Liberal or not. I don't think nyone has asked her to come "crawling" to admin for release. But given her general tone, she'll probably end up staying a while longer.
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