Almost another BINGO Dabe; I was tempted to post the King speech the other day with the headline... HOW GOOD DREAMS TURN TO NIGHTMARES. You beat me to it. The poster you display is hanging over my bed. It inspires me every day. I was in Washington the day he gave that speech, I heard it with my own ears and saw a quarter of a million people weep, as you are doing now. Don't give up hope Dabe, We Shall Overcome!

Mano, I never give up home. But, I also never lose sight of the fact that lots of people are despicable racists, that hopefully die soon, leaving no offspring to take their places, having been taught by their racist scumbag parents to perpetuate the dream of perpetuating racism. So, if I am less tolerant than you with some of the racism I see here, it's because I REFUSE to grant them any leeway or condone any of their crap. That only eggs em on.

Having said that, I'm sure my outspoken distain for these racists also eggs them on. But, it sure is bringing the rats out of the woodwork, isn't it? I have no problem exposing these dickhead for what they are.

We have the same dream, mano. We just manifest it differently.

WE SHALL OVERCOME SOME DAY

#14 by dabe Tuesday, September 06, 2005

That is the racism to which you refew, I believe, MM.

john kennedy, bobby kennedy too.

I was in Washington the day he gave that speech, I heard it with my own ears and saw a quarter of a million people weep, as you are doing now.

Another thing that you so poignantly point out here......
A quarter of a million people, 250,000 people were moved to tears by the speaker and his speech. THE SPEAKER AND THE WORDS. It's so sad that one particular poster (I wont mention names-LW) is hung up on the plagarism thing. I guess she wasn't moved.

I guess she wasn't moved

But we were/are!

john kennedy, bobby kennedy too.

Yup, absolutely. And likely orchestrated by the FBI head honcho, that scum sucking racist at the time. I was working at a very large travel agency in NYC when an announcement came over the radio that day that J. Edgar Hoover died. The entire staff, approximately 50 people, let out this huge cheer. We absolutely cheered his death. That was a beautiful thing, and something I will never forget. That is why I posted that post above wishing for these racist scumbags to die. This planet does not need them. Never did. Never will.

Dabe, I'm curious: how often do you go into the poorer, or more heavily black-populated areas of your town, as opposed to staying in your own area(s)? Or do you avoid them? If so, why? You have nothing to fear; after all, the noble black will only accost those whites who discriminate aganst them, right?

As I said, your ILK are incapable of self criticism.

Ask anyone who knows me, dabe, and they'll tell you that I'm my own worst critic.

All you do is criticize everyone else.

I'm tired of being criticized by Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton and their kind (or ilk, natch) for being what I am and so selfishly expecting blacks to contribute to society rather than to suck off of it, as so many do.
I feel the same way about white trash welfare abusers (and I say "abusers"--the ones who get on it and stay for life), but I'm sorry, every time I drive past the local Human Resources office, it's mainly blacks I see coming and going or hanging out around the front stoop, smoking cigarettes and BSing, waiting for their turn at the teat.
We have a friend who lives in public housing....she's one of two or three white people in the whole damn complex. Nearly everyone else is black (there are a few Hispanics thrown in, too, but the vast majority are blacks, so, at least based on this, don't try to tell me that whites make up the majority of welfare cases). This makes me angry, I'm sorry.
I don't begrudge it to them, not at all; I'm a Christian, and am completely willing to help those in need. If they need it, great; take it. Just don't take the handout every month and simply give up trying to stand alone.
I also blame the system itself, though----welfare is a trap, designed to keep people in the loop; it punishes personal ambition and motivation with reduction of benefits way out of proportion to earnings. I know this, and this makes me angry, too. But it CAN be overcome, if one is willing. The problem is that too many (of both races, but I always see more blacks) are NOT willing.

I admire Dr. King and his message, dabe. What happened to him is an atrocity from which this nation has yet to recover. Call me what you want; you're as blind as you accuse me of being, just in the other direction.

That is why I posted that post above wishing for these racist scumbags to die. This planet does not need them. Never did. Never will.

---dabe

Damn, woman---will you listen to yourself? I'd NEVER wish death on you, not matter how ignorant and blind I think you are, or how much you irritate me. What a true humanitarian you are, dabe...so open-minded and tolerant.

This is from a December 1992 Ebony article--so it is kind of out of date. Among the poorest of the poor--single mothers, living below the poverty line with minor children to support 39.7 percent of AFDC clients are Black single mothers and 38.1 percent are White women with children. Food stamp recipients are 37.2 percent Black and 46.2 percent White. Medicaid benefits are paid to 27.5 percent Black recipients compared to 48.5 percent White clients.

--shadesofgrey

Thanks, shades....this might have been true at that time, but what about historically? Would it hold up then?
You know what I find most fascinating and annoying about those of the liberal persuasion in general? How very, completely and utterly, willing you are to surrender the evidence of your own two eyes and personal experience, in favor of statistics compiled by people you want fervently to believe. No matter what we're talking about...race relations, global warming, the economy....you're more willing to believe numbers on a chart rather than your own eyes.
That's just idiocy.

Dabe... looks like we are going to have to find a new hero. MLK has just been exposed as a phony and plagerizer by someone here. I guess the ideals of freedom and equality are no longer valid today as we have all been misled. What are we going to do?

I feel totally violated that I have spent almost my entire life looking up to that man, campaigning over and over for his release from prison for his various civil rights activities, working the entire summer of 1963 to help organise the big March on Washington, only to hear a speech written by someone else.

I guess we just have to stop talking Dabe and start acting, actions speak louder than words anyway.
Are we supposed to just fold up our tents and go away now that MLK has ben 'exposed' as a phony? What are we to do?

only to hear a speech written by someone else.

All he'd have had to say was "as the great speaker Archibald Carey said...." But, he didn't.

Yup, absolutely. And likely orchestrated by the FBI head honcho

nope my theory is the MIC and LBJ did John in.

OMG MOd you think?? I always thought that John had Marilyn done away with... so Bobby got rid of John...because he was in love with her... then they had to get rid of MLK because he knew too much and was going to get someone to write a speech about it for him.This conspiracy of assasinations could be never ending....The biggest 'Who done it' in history.

Dabe... looks like we are going to have to find a new hero. MLK has just been exposed as a phony and plagerizer by someone here. I guess the ideals of freedom and equality are no longer valid today as we have all been misled. What are we going to do? I feel totally violated that I have spent almost my entire life looking up to that man, campaigning over and over for his release from prison for his various civil rights activities, working the entire summer of 1963 to help organise the big March on Washington, only to hear a speech written by someone else.

---manopeace

I doubt that if a rightwing idol were found to have lifted the words of another without giving proper credit, dabe and her fellow hounds would lose one second in loudly and gleefully pointing it out. Yet, you're completely willing to overlook MLK's failings.
JFK was addicted to pain pills and sex (very, very often with women other than his wife), and Teddy Kennedy is an alcoholic and is guilty of manslaughter. Yet, once again the Left overlooks these failings in their gods.

I doubt that if a rightwing idol were found to have lifted the words of another without giving proper credit, dabe and her fellow hounds would lose one second in loudly and gleefully pointing it out. Yet, you're completely willing to overlook MLK's failings. JFK was addicted to pain pills and sex (very, very often with women other than his wife), and Teddy Kennedy is an alcoholic and is guilty of manslaughter. Yet, once again the Left overlooks these failings in their gods.

First of all, I doubt very much if you can find many left wingers that consider John or Robert heros of theirs.
John almost brought the world to the brink of war over the Cuban Missle Crisis, was blamed for escalating the war in Vietnam, both causes just have happened to be the prime activities of the left in the 6os.
Bobby as Attorney General hounded MLK to his grave. He signed into legeslation laws (The Walter McCarren Act) tht made Joe McCarty look like a liberal... and also acted as defence attorneyy for that bastard during his trial. Botyh are far from heros or Gods of the left.

LBJ was unhappy that JOHN was going to withdraw troops from veitnam, the MIC saw an oppertunity to make huge amounts of money of the blood of its children fighting a war.