A beginner's work in progress.......
Why are facts so unimportant to them?
Published on September 24, 2005 By dabe In Politics
I was thinking about writing an article about why I think conservatives are conservatives, why republicans are republicans and why in hell they cannot, or refuse to put together the facts that would make the sanest of people go hmmmmmmm.........................

In other words, it seems to me that republicans refuse to accept facts, but instead rely solely on some kind of preconceived notion of morality, that being their definition of morality, in spite of and regardless of facts that would prove that some things this administration is doing just doesn't add up to anything I would consider as moral.

OK, I realize that what I consider to be moral is letting people live their lives without religious intrusion from government, without stealing people's money for corporate interests, spending whatever it takes to educate children, as they are our future, and providing health care to all citizens regardless of employment or lack thereof, as a right belonging to all Americans, rather than to only some privileged few (leaving out 45 million people from health care access is not a few people), protecting our environment using whatever resources we have at our disposal, as this is our home, our only home.

Republicans consider morality as supporting our president, right or wrong, and now particularly to rationalize an illegal war, legislating away the rights of women to obtain abortions, if that is what a woman would choose for herself, allow schools to teach religion as a science (though some would insist that it should be taught as a philosophy, as long as it's taught, which they feel is must be), allowing corporations to police themselves when it comes to environmental pollution, as anything less would constitute federal intrusion into private lives, yet at the same time, insist that gays should not be allowed to marry, even though that is a federal intrusion into private lives, etc. etc. etc. The difference being that repubs seem to think that government should intrude on private individuals lives, but not on private corporations' interests, that being only money interests, the bottom line. Huh? Where is the morality in that?

When I finally do write my article, I'll likely not post it here. This blog at JU is only a way for me to fish out republican thinking, discompassionate mindsets, and even racism. I use the info I get here as fodder for my real blogsite, which I have recently just started.

Anyway, I was hunting around the internet to start thinking about my article, when I came across this forum post. I am reposting it here, because it is so dead on accurate, and boggles my mind in it's very telling sentiment.


Things you have to believe to be a Republican today


* Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime,
unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you
need our prayers for your recovery.

* The United States should get out of the United Nations,
but our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

* Government should relax regulation of Big Business and
Big Money but crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.

* "Standing Tall for America" means firing your workers
and moving their jobs to India and China.

* A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own
body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.

* Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals
and Hillary Clinton.

* The best way to improve military morale is to praise the
troops in speeches while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.

* Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you
someday run for governor of California as a Republican.

* If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.

* A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies,
then demand their cooperation and money.

* HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart.

* Using US tax dollars to provide health care to all Iraqis is sound policy.
Providing national health care to all Americans is socialism.

* Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science,
but creationism should be taught in schools.

* Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's daddy made war on him,
a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.

* A president lying about an extramarital affair is an
impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in
which thousands die and 100's of billions of US tax dollars are pissed away is solid defense policy.

* Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution,
which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

* The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades,
but George Bush's military and driving record is none of our business.

* You support states' rights, which means Attorney General
John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have a right to adopt.

* What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest,
but what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

* Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam
is vital to a spirit of international harmony.



Comments (Page 2)
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on Sep 24, 2005
The more I look at that image, the more I notice that the hand seems to be in a slightly differnt light than his face.
Gee, you don't think some lefty sourpuss could possibly have engineered that, do ya?
on Sep 24, 2005
Rightwinger: It's real. Haha.

It's not a crime to flip the bird.
on Sep 24, 2005
Rightwinger: It's real. Haha.


I know....just pissing in some Wheaties.
on Sep 25, 2005
As to all those links....see dabe, as I said---but you must have missed it in your rush to blindly undermine and dismiss everything that's not part of what you want to believe---the posiive stuff was thrown in so it wouldn't be ignored buy the MSM...the source for all your crap.
If you'd take the time to listen to some conservative talkers, you might get your eyes opened just a little.

Here, lemme help:

Link

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on Sep 25, 2005
My personal definition of a Republican ~

A morally upright individual believing in state's rights and fiscal conservativism.

Unfortunately, we face a severe shortage of real republicans these days. Today, the current administration has shown us with their actions that they believe a big brother government is necessary and desired by the populace they hoodwink whilst they pour public money into pork barrel spending.

Disgraceful.

Bush and Co. aren't Republicans, they're neocons using religion as a tool to energize the base, offering 'security' when they are actually serving up domestic surveillance, and implying patriotism swelling nationalism when they are dismantling the country men such as Adams and Hancock originally envisioned.
on Sep 25, 2005
Bush and Co. aren't Republicans, they're neocons using religion as a tool to energize the base, offering 'security' when they are actually serving up domestic surveillance, and implying patriotism swelling nationalism when they are dismantling the country men such as Adams and Hancock originally envisioned.


You're absolutely right in this assessment. However, the neocons have also somehow coopted the republican party, and until the repubs distance themselves from the neocons, I consider them one and the same. You don't find too many dems who sidle up with the neocons. Wonder why that is? Go back to my original post.

As for dubya flipping the bird, RW, it's real. He is a vile, dispicable, excuse for a president. Likely, he is flipping it at me, along with 65% of all Americans now, those of us who see through his bluster and recognize the dumbass idiot that he is. He's failed everything he's ever touched, including his post as president. If not for the silver spoon that he was born with, he'd likely be one of the alcoholic Bowry Bum poor that you all seem to hate so much.
on Sep 25, 2005
well....as far as who repubs sidle up next to....ppl can say the exact same thing about the nutwhackjobs that the democratic party has embraced....so, it is an un-ending cycle of move-counter-move....

As far as ME voting for Bush....i looked at the alternative. I didn't vote for Bush so much so that I just absolutely loved him....but I damn sure didn't want John Kerry to be president either....

I see things that Bush has done....and I really disagree with him. But...Kerry? There is no way, under any conscience, could i have ever voted for him.
on Sep 25, 2005
I see things that Bush has done....and I really disagree with him. But...Kerry? There is no way, under any conscience, could i have ever voted for him.


Regardless of whether you hated Kerry or not, dubya is our president, as much as I hate to admit it. And regardless of whether you voted for him or not, you admit that he has made mistakes. So, are you saying that "he's my president, right or wrong, and I will support him." Is that what you're saying?

Please, do tell, as I am really interested, what are the mistakes you think he has made? Iraq? Corporate welfare? Hiring incompetent cronies? Dismissing the environment in favor of corporate profits? Cutting budgets for medicare and health care? Do tell, please. Are these the things you support, in spite of knowing that "he's made mistakes"?

Personally, I don't think these are "mistakes". I think dubya and the neocons have no interest in protecting the environment, health care, American soldiers lives, etc. They want what they want, that being money, power and oil, and will use whatever is at their disposal to obtain these things. They don't make mistakes. That's why I hate them so much. They are calculated and costly to Americans on so many levels, and they are evil bastards.

Nah, no mistakes made. But, you support them for what? I really don't understand.
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